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== Places to look for jobs ==
== Places to look for jobs ==
Indeed.com, jobs.indstate.edu, sycamore career link, ISU job fairs, stay on the cs-ugrads/cs-grads/cs-alumni email lists, large companies in the geographic area you are applying, check [[Alumni]] for places CS grads have gone previously. Look at large companies/organizations in Indiana
Indeed.com, jobs.indstate.edu, sycamore career link, ISU job fairs, stay on the cs-ugrads/cs-grads/cs-alumni email lists, large companies in the geographic area you are applying, check [[Alumni]] for places CS grads have gone previously. Look at large companies/organizations in Indiana.
= References =
= References =
Revision as of 13:51, 10 March 2021
Cover letter - if it is an option, then do one for a particular job. Why are you interested, and why are you qualified?
Tailor your resume and cover for each type of job, and to each individual job.
Start early - it takes most people 3-6 months to find a job. Start applying now!
Be realistic - don’t waste your time applying for jobs you are only marginally qualified for.
Networking - if you know someone at the company, that gives you a huge advantage.
Technical interviews - many companies run technical interviews. Imagine one of your CS professors quizzing you about everything you should have learned as a CS major. Those who get the job generally will have done well on the interview. The take away is - start studying now everything you should know, focusing the most on programming, data structures, algorithms, and specifics from the types of jobs you want to apply for.
Places to look for jobs
Indeed.com, jobs.indstate.edu, sycamore career link, ISU job fairs, stay on the cs-ugrads/cs-grads/cs-alumni email lists, large companies in the geographic area you are applying, check Alumni for places CS grads have gone previously. Look at large companies/organizations in Indiana.
You want at least one CS professor, at least one employer (hopefully). You want people you think will actually do the letter, and do it well. When you ask someone to be a reference, tell them it is okay if they think they cannot provide a good (positive) reference for you.
You ideally would be one of the better students/workers they had (i.e., you got an A-).
If you have a class with someone who is writing for you, do well in that class.
Your references will NOT give you the letter. They agree to be contacted by employers, and they will give the letter to the employer directly (typically through an online form).
Send anything you have used to apply to your letter writers - your resume and cover letter. If you get an interview with a company, give your letter writers a head’s up that they might be contacted, and let them know anything particular about this job they might need to know.
Length - make your default resume 1 or 2 pages.
Brag - paint yourself in the best possible (though still true). Is there any way to list something on your resume that sounds good? People will be looking for both quantity and quality.
Contact information - include a website for more information that looks nice, where you have a copy of your resume, and possibly more. Include a link to your github (or gitlab or something similar) where you have some of your projects.
You can use your permanent CS account for a website. cs.indstate.edu/~username, you put you rhtml files in ~/public_html/, and make sure files and directory are chmod a+rx
Education - list your degree and expected graduation, include your GPA and/or major GPA if it looks good (at least 3.5).
Employment History - jobs you have had with most recent first. For those related to CS/IT, include a bullet point of your responsibilities and/or accomplishments. If employment history does not sound good at all, don’t put it. For example, you’ve had one job for one year, and it was McDonald’s. Put details for the jobs related to CS/IT.
Projects - list major projects you have worked on. Include projects from jobs, projects from courses, and independent projects. For each, include a bullet point of the main idea (just a phrase or sentence) and any skills/technologies/programming languages/tools used. For example, you probably had a good sounding project in any Exoo class - interpretor, 3d game, . Make it sound good. You would say “3d OpenGL game”, you would not say “it really wasn’t that good, or very simple, …”. You could have a bullet point that is “Others”.
Skills and tools - laundry list of programming languages and tools. You can split them into categories - proficient and familiar, or some other categories. If you are applying for something where you really should be good at X, and it is among your better skills, then split up the skills and include X in the “proficient”. In your “familiar” category, include everything you have seen in all classes, etc. It’s okay to list if you can say something about it, would be able to answer some basic questions, and would be able to say more by looking up information. For example, in a PL course, you looked at ML - you could include that.
References - available upon request (for your publicly available resume), but for specific jobs maybe put them in. Check with people before listing them. Generally, only use people that have good things to say. When asking someone, ask if they would be able to write a positive letter for you. Best case - a CS professor that has good things to say (you took a course, got an A, were one the best students), and at least one employer (can say you’re responsible, on time, etc.). Feel free to leave this tiny section out if it helps you fit on 1 or 2 pages; everyone assumes that references are available upon request, so it isn't really necessary to list this on your resume.
Other - depending on your experiences, you might have some other section(s).
Header information - who to, date, etc.
Introduction paragraph - say what job you’re applying for, why applying, one sentence about your background and why you think you’d be good.
Your thoughts on the position - and why you think you would be good.
That could be just 2 paragraphs. Don’t stretch the truth. Don’t say you’re an expert. Right length cover letter? More than a few sentences, should fit on 1 page. 1/2 a page.
Be prepared to answer questions about anything that is on your resume. If you can’t answer questions about it, don’t list it.
Don’t stretch the truth. For example, “Are you an expert programmer?”. Answer - no, I am a good programmer, and still improving. “How much training do you need to do to do X?” Answer - honest (one of): I have done that before, so just some getting used to how your company does it; did it in a class, but need to brush up; I have seen that before, and am confident I can do some self-training over a few weeks. You don’t want to sound unrealistic. “Rate your programming skills on a 0 to 10 scale.” Answer - 6 or 7 (for the better students), and say that you’re comparing yourself to all kinds of developers, and for example a 6 or 7 means that I can develop code from scratch to do even modestly complicated tasks (and am best at doing XYZ kind of programming).
Things that are important that aren’t often covered much or at all in other courses.
- Accessibility, designing programs, etc. for this (especially web and apps)
- Recommendations from google - learn an IDE (start with a tutorial - eclipse or MS Visual Studio), python, linked-in, github
https://www.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/comments/20ahfq/heres_a_pretty_big_list_of_programming_interview/ http://www.nerdparadise.com/tech/interview/ https://www.interviewcake.com/google-interview-questions And so forth - search google for things like “computer science interview questions” Cracking the Coding Interview and https://www.hackerrank.com/ Have a look interview questions What kinds of things do you know already? What kinds of things do you not know? If you want to review anything, we can.